500 size heli... Should i?

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500 size heli... Should i?

by Demon » Sat May 22, 2010 1:48 pm

Hey all,
Ok so i've been thinking lately of going down the 500 size heli route... im happy with how to set up and all this and that but there is still one thing that is stopping me... the size of the heli!

It may sound like a stupid thing to say but hear me out - A 450 size helicopter i would say personally is the largest size heli you will be able to fly in a public area without upsetting anyone (clearly safety is priority and you dont fly in a busy playground for example)

My current worry is that i dont have the space to fly a 500 helicopter... and the distinct LACK of a stable helicopter flying club in my region makes things harder still...

I fly my 450 in one of two places, a public playground just in front of my house (only when it is free of small children - i.e During the hours of school) or a local lake where you get the occasional person walking a dog but there is barely enough space to fly comfortably due to tree's. The first location is shown in the youtube vid at the end of this post...



SO i guess my question is, Where do you fly, would you say a 500 size heli is safe in these more public area's and ultimately, should i get a 500?


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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW8mZJ_XSQk[/youtube]
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by Demon » Sat May 22, 2010 1:51 pm

One last thing, i guess its not so much a question of space as a question of Public access...


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by pinkvdub » Sat May 22, 2010 2:15 pm

to be honist, id stick with the 450 or get sport like on my last post bit different then.

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by Demon » Sat May 22, 2010 2:19 pm

Hey Pink,

Thanks for the reply, To be honest im extremely happy with my Dragonsky 450, its a great heli, very stable great quality etc etc and in that vid it was on the third pack of actually flying (as opposed to just hovering / nose in, side in etc etc) Now im allot more confident in the bird and do flips and rolls and half flips etc... But just recently wanted a bigger heli :(

thanks for the input though, always appreciated,
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by pinkvdub » Sat May 22, 2010 2:26 pm

i can see your point, ive got a brand new 600 esp and havnt even putting it together yet! lol cant wait to fly it. if you get a 500 id get the copterx or the skya there awsome

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by Demon » Sat May 22, 2010 3:10 pm

Hey Pink,
Thanks for the advice, im gona try and keep the cost down as far as possible, The HK500T is only about $40 + P&P atm and they seem to have sorted the problems with the swash and servo mounts now... that and im getting all the rest of the stuff there. That is of course if i even decide to get a 500 :P

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by dalerst » Sat May 22, 2010 5:49 pm

I would say go for it mate, even if you only get to fly it a few time a month in the summer, late at night when all the kids are in bed, having a 500 size heli will be awesome.
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by 10russ10 » Sat May 22, 2010 8:22 pm

I have just built a align 500 ESP :D the first flight was fantastic!!!

tonight I had my 3rd and 4th flight and it fly's so much bigger than a 450 it dosent take long at all to get a way from you, I found my self sending it alot futher away that I would with the 450 the power and speed :shock: is something else
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by Demon » Sat May 22, 2010 8:28 pm

Hehe, This is exactly what i didnt want to hear... Now i REALLY want to buy one :P

thanks for the info all... Guess im gona have to start looking for a bigger space to fly ^^

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by xdrt33 » Sun May 23, 2010 5:51 am

Demon wrote:Guess im gona have to start looking for a bigger space to fly ^^

Yeah, I'm always looking for new bigger fields.
Just got a new one - an ENORMOUS grain field with a private tarmac road through the middle. No trees / overhead lines / animals / kids. Permission from the farmer too - he was very proud of the size of his field when I talked to him - the biggest in the local area!
Actually, I use this field mainly for planks. The local playing field is OK for helis - 450 or 500, as long as there's no kids on it.
Get the 500, Demon - a good winter build project! Image
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by 10russ10 » Sun May 23, 2010 6:44 am

xdrt33 wrote:Get the 500, Demon - a good winter build project! Image
Cheers, Steve G


:lol: mine was going to be a slow 6-month build, I only lasted 2 weeks :lol:

you will love the size of it.
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by maccanaut » Sun May 23, 2010 7:24 am

As said earlier, get the copterx or the skya if u wanna keep costs down. I been dwelling on getting the skya 500 for weeks and after deciding i should stop, i'm now tempted all over again. The skya is fantastic quality. I have the skya 450 pro and i was amazed at how smooth the bearings are and how clean the frames been cut and all the screws are larger and less likely to strip. Its beautiful.

Of course, depending on what budget u wanna allocate for the electrics etc it might just be worthwhile getting the trex 500 esp, since the cost of the skya can mount up just as high with better end electrics. In any case, the 500 is an awesome machine but as u say space is needed. I dont fly my 500 much since i have to drive about 25 mins away from home to fly safely. The 450's are easier to find places for flying in and the 250.......well.....u can fly that in a small backyard.

But if u havent had a lot of time with 450 helis then i'd skip the 500 for a while mate cos the cost of repairs stacks up high and the difficulty in finding easy to reach flying sites might just take the shine off it all. For now that is.........coz in the end......ur gonna get one! :wink: :wink:
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by Demon » Sun May 23, 2010 9:35 am

Heya all,

First off, thank you all very much for the input it really is appreciated!
I think if i was to get a 500 size price would be my main constraint (being a student and all) which is why i would most likely go with the HK500T or HK500GT, the skya cost almost 100$ more than the 500GT and although im sure it is an exceptional heli... Im not sure i would be able to justify the extra dough :( ... at least not as a student :D

Which brings me on to my next point, i only really fly during holidays, (granted we only go to uni for about 28 weeks a year) and even then, money is so low that im forced to get a job to keep the 450 in the air (Cruel world) so my dream of flying a 500 may have to wait... at least for another 2 years till im out of uni by that point theres bound to be more manufacturers and such so parts should also be more affordable... For now though - Maybe i will get a HK450 GT :twisted:


Thanks for the input all,
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by maccanaut » Sun May 23, 2010 9:58 am

Hi Demon.......mate.......please do urself a favour and get the skya 450 then. The hk450 quality is lacking IMO and for the effort and cost of replacing dodgy parts and even worse repairing ur heli after a dodgy part causes a crash just it aint worth it. Spend the extra and get the Skya 450. U can get them from outside of UK for a great price although not sure what u guys pay on customs.
If in the end u do go the hk450gt then at least read the forums and watch for the commonly known problems. I was advised to change the tail drive gear assembly and ignored the warning. Lucky i wasnt far off the ground and didnt crash but its still a pain to have to change the darn thing.
Also the belt is poor and could benefit from an align upgrade.
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by maccanaut » Sun May 23, 2010 10:03 am

By the way....that dragonsky450 looks very much like a hk450. Wonder if theyre from the same factory....?
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by Demon » Sun May 23, 2010 10:58 am

Heya Macca,

Yeah the Dragonsky 450 looks very similar to the HK450 V2, what im looking at is the HK450 GT (not pro). regardless of what i get i will take it appart when i do get it and make sure everything is glued, screwed and locktited as it should be. I will of course research the heli before i get it to see what specifically to look out for though :D

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by Tamiya10 » Tue May 25, 2010 1:22 pm

I have been thinking of getting a 500 size heli for the past year.
I almost bought a used CNC HK 500 heli with all the good parts added.

Deal did not go though.... :(
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by averhamdave » Thu May 27, 2010 6:07 pm

If money is tight then I'd stick with the 450 but seriously consider going to a PRO. Buy a clone airframe for $30 and just swap all the bits over from the heli you have. The difference in performance is unbelievable and your flying is well up to it.

A mate bought a HK500 and it fell to bits within about 10 flights. He then bought a Flasher 500 and it got on fire (2 cheap 3S lipos in series), crashed and was scrap! I have a CC500 (Skya by a different name) and its excellent but they aren't cheap by the time you've bought decent batteries etc.

Other than that your flying area would be adequate for a 500 if you choose to go that way.

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by Tamiya10 » Mon May 31, 2010 11:21 pm

I am in now, HK 500 GT with align parts........................... :twisted:
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by Demon » Tue Jun 01, 2010 6:46 am

Congrats Tamiya!!!! I stumbled across a killer deal on a Futaba Gy401 on fleabay the other day so ordered that (how much better are they compared to the HK401B?) But in the meantime i have decided to keep flying the Dragonsky 450... will just keep upgrading it :twisted:

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by Tamiya10 » Sun Jun 06, 2010 3:42 pm

The Futaba Gy401 will be a little better. It's real, not a clone........... :P
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by Demon » Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:09 pm

lol thanks for the input bud, i heard allot of people saying they are both very good but that the GY401 beat the G401B when it comes to Temp stability and drift etc etc... So guess i will be upgrading the Gyro :D (finally received it too). Now im waiting on HK to stock 450 Pro parts and some nice Fibreglass blades so i can get flying again :(


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by Tamiya10 » Sun Jun 06, 2010 4:17 pm

I still like the 325 Pro blades, from align.
I like the wood better. The fibre glass are nice, but on impact everything
breaks............ :twisted:
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by Demon » Sun Jun 06, 2010 5:07 pm

Had my original pair of FRP blades go on the last crash, only the blades and blade grips broke (plastic Grips). So that was acceptable. Furthermore, the blades only cost $3.30 per pair :D


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by Tamiya10 » Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:59 pm

Still waiting for the HK 500GT, mail is slow.
Maybe I am impatient............................... :wink:
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