450 size Quadcopter: any pointers?
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450 size Quadcopter: any pointers?

by hippo17 » Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:30 pm

Hi all, i've enjoyed the mini/micro quadcopers that i have (Blade MQX and Husban X4 along with Walkera Ladybird, due tomorrow) and having looked at some posts in this section fancy a 450 size Quad rather than an equivelent size heli.

I have 3 criteria
1. Not too expensive
2. I want it to bind with my DX6i
3. I would like easily fitted navigation lights

Can anyone give me afew pointers in the right direction?

Thanks, Hippo :)
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Re: 450 size Quadcopter: any pointers?

by Davethepitch » Wed Dec 12, 2012 4:56 pm

hippo17 wrote:Hi all, i've enjoyed the mini/micro quadcopers that i have (Blade MQX and Husban X4 along with Walkera Ladybird, due tomorrow) and having looked at some posts in this section fancy a 450 size Quad rather than an equivelent size heli.

I have 3 criteria
1. Not too expensive
2. I want it to bind with my DX6i
3. I would like easily fitted navigation lights

Can anyone give me a few pointers in the right direction?

Thanks, Hippo :)


Hello Hippo

It is hard to say as we do not know what your budget is as that would dictate what options are available.

We know that these are your 3 criterias so i have added to the end of each one what i think.

1. Not too expensive This depends on what your budget is.
2. I want it to bind with my DX6i You could fit a simple and cheap Orange RX.
3. I would like easily fitted navigation lights. I have used Turnigy 12V led strip lights wired in parallel.

In the for sale section paulcobra has a kit he is selling and it has a Crius all in one pro flight controller board and gps included in the picture http://forum.heliguy.com/450-size-quad- ... 70493.html

The DJI Naza flight controller is very good although they are expensive at around £170, i have a Crius all in one pro fitted to my 450 quad but i do not have any gps fitted to it but the Crius is a good flight controller that does the job.

I am still in my early stages of understanding these quads and really i should not be offering advice as i guess it is like the blind leading the blind.


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by hippo17 » Wed Dec 12, 2012 5:04 pm

Dave, thanks. Sometimes the blind see things that are important to the blind and can be overlooked when we are familiar with something.

Its exciting this quad stuff !!!

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by hippo17 » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:04 pm

Dave/anyone else, my budget would be around £300 (but could stretch abit more to include some fancy navigation lights!! :) )

I've seen a Dualsky Hornet that is due out around now; is that sort of stuff any good or best left alone?

Thanks, Hippo :)
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by paulsouthport » Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:53 pm

You could build one quite easily - here's my build and I still regularly fly it, especially now in the dark evenings

http://forum.heliguy.com/ftopic65159.html

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by hippo17 » Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:56 pm

Paul, impressive stuff ; me build one easily? Don't think so. I like depron, not aluminium!!
Still, it gave me a good understanding of what the basic quadcopter components are: it does look easier than i thought if truth be told, but not being a natural in engineering matters, i'll need to psyche myself up big time to do my own.
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by Biffa » Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:37 pm

I recently built one. Frame, ESC's and props from HobbyKing, motors from Giant Shark and the KK board came from Ebay. Just added RX and 2200 LiPo's I already had. Came in at under £100.

You can also find one or two retailers on Ebay who knock them out all built and set up ready to fly for about £150.
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by hippo17 » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:36 pm

Thanks Biffa, i'll look into that. At £150 that is really reasonable.

Perhaps i should make the effort to build one myself.
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by Biffa » Sun Dec 16, 2012 12:32 pm

hippo17 wrote:Perhaps i should make the effort to build one myself.


The making of them isn't really hard, just setting up the FC board can be a little tricky, but not impossible. Well worth the effort and save yourself some money too.
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by Davethepitch » Sun Dec 16, 2012 1:53 pm

Biffa wrote:just setting up the FC board can be a little tricky, but not impossible. Well worth the effort and save yourself some money too.


That's what i am trying to get my head around at the moment and i am reading up on the MultiWii GUI software and the way it works and what parameters and values to use on my Crius MultiWii SE flight controller that is fitted to my quadcopter just in case i decide to change any of the settings.

If i get to understand the above i may even look at the Megapirate software and see how that works.

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by hippo17 » Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:25 pm

Biffa, having had a look at the seperate components, its the FC board that puts me off putting together one myself; i'm not that hot on electrical things.
Never mind,there are one or two fully assembled ones that i've seen.
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by Friskle » Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:58 pm

If your budget is around the £300 mark, then, imho, get yourself a Naza Controller, ESC and motors can be gotten cheaply enough, and a 450 DJI flamewheel are reasonable, and make it hardly worth bothering amassing the stuff to make one.

Frame http://quadcopters.co.uk/dji-f450-flame ... -123-p.asp


or stick £3 on and go all in ? at least you will have little to no issues.
http://quadcopters.co.uk/dji-naza-f450- ... -161-p.asp

The PC assistant is easy to use, and you would be set up in minutes.
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by hippo17 » Mon Dec 17, 2012 7:55 pm

Thanks Friskle, the 2nd option there makes it all realistic for me; would just need to add some nice navigation lights...!

What is that guy doing at the start of the 2nd video???!!!! :shock: :shock: Hasn't he heard of basic health and safety!!! I shan't be doing that; got a prop strike on the top of my hand afew years back and the 4 scars show the 4 different points of contact.

Anyway, that definitely hits the mark, its one to ponder seriously and if xmas doesn't bankrupt me and leaves my budget intact.

Thanks again
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by Friskle » Mon Dec 17, 2012 8:46 pm

When i was initially testing my WKM, had it sat there in attitude mode, and pulled it down with its legs about a couple of foot, let go, it rose to exactly the height where i had pulled it from.

so that was a better test than sticking your hands over the top :)

the Naza is a good controller, bare in mind it will also suit for anything later, eg it has camera gimble control, so if ever decide to do that, you dont need another controller.
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